Thursday, May 31, 2012

Can The Mormon Church, Help President Obama Prove His American Indian Ancestry?



In Dreams, p. 13 Mr Obama says that "a distant ancestor" of hers "had indeed been a full-blooded Cherokee". No evidence has been found to support this claim***.

Madelyne Payne Dunham's roots, mother Leona (McCurry) Payne/Margaret Bell Wright/Frances A Allred/ Anna Bunch*

The Bunch were part of the Melungeon DNA study. They came back with the Eb1a1 halo type "Sub Saharan African".  The Bunch YDNA Project. Scroll down the page to read about President Obama's Bunch ancestors YDNA findings. 


"Now a new DNA study in the Journal of Genetic Genealogy attempts to separate truth from oral tradition and wishful thinking. The study found the truth to be somewhat less exotic: Genetic evidence shows that the families historically called Melungeons are the offspring of sub- Saharan African men and white women of northern or central European origin. 

There were a whole lot of people upset by this study, "lead researcher Roberta Estes said. "They just knew they were Portuguese or Native American".

I addressed the American Indian components to the Melungeon in my last post: Melungeon DNA Study Findings, Wipes Out President Obama's Cherokee Ancestry. I am going to address the Portuguese component. 

This Melungeon DNA project has been presented as something conclusive to the ethnicity of the people who were known by the slur Melungeon. The best way to describe this study is to compare it to the CBO. The Congressional Budget Office is sent bills from our congress to score the cost. The CBO can only use the numbers they are given to figure out the cost of the bill. This Melungeon study can only be scored by the DNA of the descendants of the people that were referred to by the slur Melungeon, that were included in the study. 

The study finds that the people called Melungeon were the offspring of sub- Saharan African men, and white woman of European origin. Because they found Eb1a1 halo type?  That does not mean they weren't Portuguese. The Portuguese were involved in the slave trade, Angola, West Africa was a Portuguese colony for 400 years. If you were from Angola, up until 1975 you were a Portuguese citizen. Not unlike how Kenya was a British colony, and you would be a British citizen. 

They also called themselves Black Dutch. The meaning of Black Dutch has changed over time to mean an ethnic display, but I believe it originally was meant to describe origins of people effected by the Dutch participation in the Black slave trade. These people knew how they entered colonial America. 

Halo Group Eb1a1 (YDNA) it was known as E3a from 2002 -2008.  I don't want to bore people with the DNA.  Here is a link to Bantu expansion and Bantu migration, it includes a visual aid a map graphic - it shows migration into Angola and other African Countries. 

Why would finding Eb1a1 halo group in the Melungeon DNA study prove the Melungeon were not Portuguese. JOGG expects us to believe that Portugal was ruling Angola for 400 years and no mixing occurred between Portuguese and the Indigenous tribes of Angola? Even if they didn't mix with them, calling themselves Portygee is still correct, Angola was a Portuguese colony.

Portugal was involved in the slave trade as were the Dutch. Portugal, Angola, Brazil to Virginia. The Portuguese were also shipping African slaves into Mexico to work in the mines. 


Those Africans, probably no more than 150-200, taken from the Bautista by 
English corsairs, were among the thousands captured in the Portuguese-Ndongo 
war of 1618-1619 described in an earlier chapter by Thornton. Sluiter points 
out that the Bautista... 


"...was the only slave ship among the 36 named as arriving at Vera Cruz 
during the fiscal years 1618-1619 through 1621-22 to be attacked inbound from 
Angola, by corsairs."

 The Angolans, the first African-American forefathers in a British-American 
colony, the first of the African ancestors of the Melungeons, came ashore at 
Point Comfort that day from the man-o-war "White Lion", commanded by Captain 
John Colyn Jope of Cornwall, England, sailing out of Vlissingen, the 
Netherlands. Jope traded the "20, and Odd" Africans to Virginia governor 
George Yeardley and Cape merchant Abraham Piersey in exchange for provisions. 


Then these names began to appear on records in colonial Virginia, Rodrigues - became Driggers, Francisco became Sisco and Cisco, Goynes -Goins, Chavis - Chavez. My own Gibson family line goes back to Chavis we had a history with the Driggers


As far as mixing with Indians, tell it to the Gingaskin tribe of Virginia they lost their tribal designation for not being "Indian" enough. 


I think I have shown that Eb1a1 halo type doesn't signify a person can't be Portuguese. 


"It's sometimes embarrassing to see the lengths your ancestors went to hide their African heritage, but look at the consequences said "Wayne Winkler" past president of the Melungeon Heritage Association. "They suffered anyway because of the suspicion."


Or they were telling the truth, and other people's bias are still being projected onto them, apparently now it's coming from their own descendants. 



Melungeon identity is assumed to involve a mixture of some combination of Western European, Native American, and sometimes African ancestry, with early assertions of "Portuguese" or "Portuguese Indian" background being widely claimed. The term "tri racial isolate" has been academically applied to this group, but this term is problematic in that not all Melungeons claim a tri-racial identity and, in many cases, these families appear to be anything but isolates. 

Some of the most prominent surnames that have been claimed as potentially associated with Melungeon identity include, Bowling (Bolin), Bunch*, Chavis (Chavez), Collins, Epps, Evans, Fields, Francisco, Gibson, Gill, Goins, Goodman, Minor, Mise, Moore, Mullins, Osborn(e), Phipps, Reeves, (Rives,Rieves, Reeves,Reaves), Ridley (Riddle),Rodrigues, Stowers, Vanover, Williams, and Wise. This extremely partial list should not be taken as suggesting, however, that every family using this surname is necessarily considered to be Melungeon.

Some of the sources and discussions pertaining to the Melungeons suggest that, in some cases, there may be a relationship to a specific Native American group. One of those groups that figures prominently consists of those generally defined as Saponi. End

I don't know if the President is upset by the Melungeon YDNA study findings, as the Huffington Post headline suggest, people would be upset to find they didn't have Portuguese or American Indian ancestry. 

I believe that the President of the United States knows his ethnic makeup, JOGG's cherry picked Melungeon YDNA study aside.   My first hint that he knew where he came from, his comments on "The View" that upset a lot of people when he said: We are sort of a mongrel people. 

Barbara Walters offered this comment and question to President Obama: You do not describe yourself as a black president. Your mother was white. Would it be helpful or why don't you say "I'm not a black president, I'm bi-racial?"

Obama responded, in part: The interesting thing about the African-American experience in this country is that we are sort of a mongrel people, I mean we're all kinds of mixed-up. Now that's actually true for white America as well, but we just know more about it."

Oh I don't know about that knowing more about it Mr President, some of us have a pretty good handle on our pedigree ;)


Stay tuned next we are going to explore Vardy Collins R1a1a  "Viking Blood".  Vardy Collins was such a famous Melungeon character, they named a town after him Vardy, Hancock Co.,Tennessee.  When people would ask for directions to Sneedville, they would be told: You can't there from here. 

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